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Anti-Mormon Comment Trolls

Over on Townhall.com the place seems to be filled with Trolls making anti-Mormon comments to any post where Romney’s name shows up either in the actual Post or somewhere in the comments.   In actuality the Trolls are few (maybe 4-5) but loud and persistant.  Decided to call one out last night, on a post by Hugh Hewitt about MCain, the “Gang of 14” and the future of Court nominees, and toy with him like a Cat with a mouse.  My nom de plume on Townhall is TR-Racer.

brianakira writes:

Thursday, January, 24, 2008 2:15 AM

MORMON BISHOP PRESIDENT ROMNEY

Mitt Romney is a Mormon bishop.He is ordained as a bishop. Right now he is not responsible for any parish.

According to the Mormon cult, a bishop is responsible for a parish (in other words, he is more like the equivalent of a Christian priest), but remains a bishop forever, unless he is excommunicated or apostate. Therefore, Romney is now a bishop.

Incredibly, incredibly, not one single reporter/journalist in a nation of 300,000,000 people has thought to ask the Republican Party’s front runner in the presidential race if he is in fact still a Mormon bishop, and if he will be a bishop if he becomes president.

It buggers belief!

Organizationally, the Mormon equivalent to a Christian bishop (with a diocese) would be a Stake President. Romney was also a State President. That position is not an ordination.

Also incredibly, Romney does not include his two years as a missionary or his bishopric (including seven years of daily service) or his stake presidency in his resume or biographical details on any websites associated with him.

One thing that Mormons try to say is that he is “not really” a bishop because he wasn’t paid. Amazing sophistry. In fact, it’s irrelevant whether he was/is paid, since it’s his vocation. But if they want to make a point of that, obviously it’s something he’s dedicated to since he serves without pay.

What sort of a country is the US where a bishop can run for president, lead in one party’s race, be in the news every single day, and hardly a single citizen is even aware of it, and the MSM and the “conservative” windbag punditocracy have not the slightest interest!?

What is wrong with you people?

TR-Racer writes: Thursday, January, 24, 2008 2:41 AM
Brianakira – At it again…
Brian,Get a grip as you are teetering on the edge of reality. No one said that Romney is not a Bishop because he is/was not paid. They say he is no longer a Bishop because he was released from that calling.

http://mormon.wikia.com/wiki/Bishop

“…When a bishop is released (and replaced), he is still called bishop, having been ordained to that office of the priesthood, but he does not continue to preside over his ward.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocation

“…The idea of vocation is central to the Christian belief that God has created each person with gifts and talents oriented toward specific purposes and a way of life…Christian vocation includes the use of ones gifts in their profession, family life, church and civic commitments for the sake of the greater common good.”

Wouldn’t Romney using his professional experience in a civic commitment be part of his vocation?

Is a Pastor also a vocation?

If so what are your deep thoughts on Huckabee?

Joe writes:

Thursday, January, 24, 2008 2:50 AM

Please no anti Mormon slams

It is just plain old bigotry, not political argument. I recognize you can legitmately say Mitt might have a harder time as a Mormon than say as a mainstream Protestant. Fair enough. I think even Mitt would admit that. While the LDS Church is wide spread it is definitely a minority religion. Wider voter identification helps.But when you start mocking Mitt Romney’s faith, it is objectionable and hurtful. It is unjustified and just not right. It really does not make a helpful argument, it just alienates.

TR-Racer writes: Thursday, January, 24, 2008 3:07 AM
Thanks Joe..
You are right relgious bigotry serves no purpose. The Constitution even asks that we not apply a religious tests to someone.I could care less if someone it Methodist, Baptist, Catholic, Mormon or even Scientoligist.

As to the issue of Mormon’s voting in “lockstep”. Does it happen? “Kinda” and I don’t like it when it does. Romney got a majority of the Mormon Republicans in NV (and will probably do so in UT, AZ, CA, NM, ID, OR, etc… Heck he will probably get the majority in GA, TX, PA too. So? The reason tends to be people like Brianakira and there attacks causing a group to rally together. Where that does not happen you don’t see the group voting in action. Look at Utah. The mayor of SLC is not Mormon and he is a Democrat. The Govenor is a Mormon and he is a Republican. The church does not take a stand and forbids the use of it’s facilities and membership lists from being used for political purposes.

Joe writes:

Thursday, January, 24, 2008 3:10 AM

TR-Racer

There is bigotry against the LDS Church, which is no different than open bigotry practiced against Catholics and Jews not too long ago. It was wrong then and it is wrong now.

brianakira writes:

Thursday, January, 24, 2008 3:36 AM

Useful Idiot Joe

Joe,You are offensive, and a fool.

You are offensive to tell people what to say and what not to say.

You are no better than the offensive fools here who mock you for posting so many comments on Romney’s record.

You are a fool because you spend ages trying to convince eople that Bishop Romney is untrustworthy, when one of the most obvious proofs of that is in his dissembling about religious matters (“Who me? Oh I doon’t know much abut all that confusing dogma….”) If a Catholic Bishop or a Rabbi spoke like that they’d be laughed off the political stage.

I guess you are a useful idiot for Romney’s campaign. Congratulations!

I repeat, what sort of a country is the US where a bishop can run for president, lead in one party’s race, be in the news every single day, and hardly a single citizen is even aware of it, and the MSM and the “conservative” windbag punditocracy have not the slightest interest!?

TR-Racer writes: Thursday, January, 24, 2008 3:45 AM
Brian Akira the Canadian? Unmasked
The power of Google. always good to put peoples viewpoints into perspctive.http://brianakira.wordpress.com/

Brian has a personal blog on WordPress. On it ee claims to be Catholic and spends lots of time on Canadian issues (seems like he might actually be Canadian by the other postings when not bashing the Mormon church on his personal blog too). He also admits to being evited from a meeting at the University of Manitoba due to his threatening behavior in a post on his site from 4 days ago.

“…The president said she felt she was being attacked and judged, and that she felt threatened, and that I had hurt her feelings.

Then they evicted me…”

Brian, if your Canadian why are you commenting/bothering us on a US election? Is it just due to your irrational hared of Mormons?

brianakira writes:

Thursday, January, 24, 2008 3:54 AM

Silly Bugger

TR-RACERYou are a moron and a bigot

Re: http://brianakira.wordpress.com/

– Thanks

Re: “ee claims to be Catholic and spends lots of time on Canadian issues (seems like he might actually be Canadian”

– You’re a moron. There are millions of Americans outside the USA

“He also admits to being evited from a meeting at the University of Manitoba due to his threatening behavior in a post on his site from 4 days ago.”

– You really are an idiot. That was a so-called Human Rights group that was offended that somebody wanted to defend Ezra Levant’s freedom of speech. They were too busy supporting al-Qaeda and arguing about Starbucks. I take it then that you also support al-Qaeda and get apoplectic over Starbucks?

“Brian, if your Canadian why are you commenting/bothering us on a US election?”

– Asked and answered. Besides, if I were, so what? I know for a fact that you are Bulgarian. And a worm.

brianakira writes:

Thursday, January, 24, 2008 3:56 AM

U/M ‘Human Rights’ Group re Levant & MS

I went to a meeting of the “University of Manitoba’s Rights and Democracy Network” to see if anyone might be interested in “raising awareness” (as they like to say) of Ezra Levant and Mark Steyn’s cases.They were already busy trying to sell indigenous people’s jewelry, and fair trade tea, and informed me they didn’t get involved in “partisan issues” or “politics” or “controversial cases.”

I quoted their manifesto, which contradicted everything they had just told me.

The president said she felt she was being attacked and judged, and that she felt threatened, and that I had hurt her feelings.

Then they evicted me.

You can figure out how things went by reading between the lines in the email I sent their president:

QUOTE

[Continued]

He continued posting as multiple comments the entire article that I quoted from his site.  I’m not going to do that here.

brianakira writes:

Thursday, January, 24, 2008 4:01 AM

LIAR

Re: “He also admits to being evited from a meeting at the University of Manitoba due to his threatening behavior”Wrong, you illiterate ignoramus.

I said, “I quoted their manifesto, which contradicted everything they had just told me. The president said she felt she was being attacked and judged, and that she FELT threatened, and that I had hurt her feelings.”

Learn to read, you idiot.

TR-Racer writes: Thursday, January, 24, 2008 4:11 AM
BK the Canuck from Winnipeg
Pray tell BK what did I say that was bigoted? Did I call you a mean nasty name? Did I disparage you, your religion or your chosen Country of Residence (if you are in fact an American living abroad). I think not.Did I defend al-Qaeda or Starbucks? Nope, I didn’t even mention them. I merely repeated what you said. You were threatening in action and deed (hard to believe I know based on your obvious well mannered and reasoned decourom on this blog)

As to my hertitage… My family has been here in America since 1663. We trace our lineage back to Ireland and Scottland. In fact the head of our Irish clan still lives in the oldest inhabited Castle in Ireland (since 1350). Nope no Bulgarians, worms or snakes.

http://www.clanegan.org/redwood.htm

Hope your not freezing there in Winnipeg since the temp is shown to be -11 right now. It’s a comfortable 53 degrees here.

TR-Racer writes: Thursday, January, 24, 2008 4:17 AM
BK the history revisionist
BK,I quoted you correctly and in fact you quoted you correctly. I even included the elipise in front and after the quote so that I was not misrepresenting what you said. I gave the source of the information too so that others could read your admission of being a bully.

“…The president said she felt she was being attacked and judged, and that she felt threatened, and that I had hurt her feelings.

Then they evicted me…”

It does not matter what you said it was how you said it. It was threatening and they evisted you. We have seen how you act on line I can only imagine how irritating you would be in person.

Thanks for clearing that up.

brianakira writes:

Thursday, January, 24, 2008 4:20 AM

WORTH THE EFFORT?

“BK the Canuck from Winnipeg — Pray tell BK what did I say that was bigoted?”– You’re a bigot (and a dummy) for assuming that a person must be a citizen of the country wherein they reside and for assuming that anyone living outside the US must be a foreigner.

“Did I defend al-Qaeda or Starbucks? Nope, I didn’t even mention them. I merely repeated what you said. You were threatening in action and deed”

– Wrong again. You implied that I threatened somebody, when I stated clearly that some silly pinko enemy of free speech who claimed to represent a “human rights” group “felt” threatened that I would dare quote their very own manifesto to point out how hypocritical they are to campaign against starbucks and defend al-Qaeda while condemning a Canadian publisher who is being persecuted for offending a Saudi Wahabbi bigot.

And you mean “Norman”, BTW.

brianakira writes:

Thursday, January, 24, 2008 4:26 AM

RUINS

IdiotShe “felt” judged and threatened because I quoted their manifesto.

You are a real ignoramus.

And I guess it makes you feel good to think that someone you’re distantly related to lives in a castle. However Redwood is dull dull dull.

I’d rather go to Carrickfergus anyday.

And Redwood has only been occupied since 1972

Hardly the oldest occupied castle in Ireland.

You’re too funny to get upset with.

“Your” castle was a ruin from 1650-1972; just a broken exterior wall.

Kind of like you.

TR-Racer writes: Thursday, January, 24, 2008 4:44 AM
BK – Get your facts straight
I’m still waiting for the exapmle of my being a bigot. Do I hear the sound of cricket’s chirpping or is that merely the sound of ice cicles breaking off your roof there in Canada?I asked if you were Canadian because the evidence seemed to point that way. I then claried my statement that you chose not to acknowledge by saying “your chosen Country of Residence”.

I did not imply that you threatened anyone. I said (and you quoted yourself) you admitted to be evicted from a meeting because the person that you were talking to at that meeting said you were making her feel threatened.

On Farah’s blog you indicated you singed your name that you were from Winnipeg. Maybe you moved since posting that anti-mormon comment on that blog?

It’s not my Castle by the way. I also did not say it was inhabitd continusly since 1350. It is the oldest Castle that is inhabited in Ireland. It was redeemed from the Ruins that a previous religious bigot (Cromwell – a Protestant) inflicted on my Catholic ancestors. Maybe there is hope that the ruin of your attitude can be redeemed too.

TR-Racer writes: Thursday, January, 24, 2008 4:53 AM
BK – making his own assumptions
BK,I did not “assume” that someone living outside the US is a “furriner”. I asked if you were. You still have not indicated if you are or not.

I have lived outside the US too. South Korea and Israel. However, my nom de plume on this site would not give you any idea as to my Nationality only to the Manufacturer of one of my race cars.

Brain Akira didn’t respond back and I was going to either as the time was about 3am and I wanted to get some sleep before getting up in 3-4 hours.

If/When I see the sad little man back on the Townhall blog I can leave a single post to the other readers informing them that Brian is a resident of Canada with an admitted history of physically threatening behavior and posting anti-Mormon rhetoric on multiple sites.  I won’t be responding to him anymore as he has ben shown to clearly be unhinged.

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